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My galaxie convertable has a 352 that needs a lot of machine work, sleeves, etc. I found a newly rebuilt '76 truck 390 that has been sitting a while but is cheaper than just boring and cleaning my 352. I know the truck 390's were low comp & hp but I have parts I could swap out heads, intake, etc. I would even put in new pistons if it needed more comp.

My main question is will it fit, motor mounts, transmission , etc. He said the 390 has a c6 w/ it, my galaxie is an automatic column shift, not sure which tranny. If I can do it at least I'll be starting with a good bottem end that is already machined, ground, balanced, etc.

thanks for any input here.
 

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It ought to work. You need to use the mounts from the 64, the oil pan, starter, and everything from crankshaft flange to rear from the 1964 too to make for a simple swap. Use the charging system electrical from the 64, but carb from the 1976. The 1964 had the vertical style exhaust manifolds, and may have to use those, for the 1976 may not mate up very easily. I can't remember which water pump to use but usually it is the later one.

Generally, you will find after cleaning things up that visually things will work and other things will not, for there is no bolt holes for such.

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The 390 and the 352 are EXACTLY the same except for the bore...
 

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you will prolly have to go with the early style water pump, depends if you have a generator or alt, if a gen then early as they have a slightly different style mounting holes. also depends on pulleys your using, im guesing it will be easiest to use the 64 setup to keep all the belts lined up correctly. other than that the above mentioned
 

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oh and as for the tranny you can use it in your car, but you will have to modify some things, the crossmember will have to be moved back, ebrake cable rerouted, your shift pattern will be different from the current one, do a search on this website this has been covered many times

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: westcoastgalaxie on 11/3/06 12:01pm ]</font>
 

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Thanks all. My main conern was the motor mounts, I was told by an engine rebuilder that the mount locations changed in 67 on the FE style blocks so it would not drop in, but I had not been able to verify that yet.

I'm also wondering about getting the HP back up to 60's levels, the 70's style truck engines were rated at 200ish HP. I'm thinking that all I need to do it swap out the pistons with some 60's style car pistons and use my rebuilt heads and intake. I'm thinking the short block should be identical except for possibly the pistons which should interchange??

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As for motor mounts. yes they did change in 1967, as mentioned. However, there were additional studs set into the block just so that the engine could be used in an earlier chassis.

The C-6 transmission uses a different driveshaft yoke. If you want to "get going tomorrow" use the earlier Cruise-o-matic, otherwise you will be adapting many things to fit.

The truck 390 uses dished pistions to keep the compression pressure down. Flat tops will boost it up a whole point.

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I am running a '76 FE 360 in my '64...for all intensive purposes. I do have the newer water pump and converted to an alternator. Do as stated above and keep the old motor for swaping parts that don't matter and buy new parts like water pump, front sump oil pump...and stuff like that. Should be the EXACT same block though. Good luck.
 

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RAn a 66 Merc 390 and mx trans in my 60 Starliner, used the original motor mounts and trans mounts and except for trying to hop up the engine and breaking the cam, fit like a glove, no problems.
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You're saying that the outside of the 64 352/390 changed by '76...? What was the change? I know the block for a truck has webbing and generally the car's do not, but that's on the inside.... Is the timing cover diffrent? That wouldn't effect the installation into a galaxie...

I reckon I just want to know the diffrences that prevent him from dropping it right into the galaxie.

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they added four bosses on the block itself for motor mounts in 65, 64 and earlier blocks only used two bosses. so you can use the 64 mounts on the later style block. i did this on my gal no prob. also another diff in motor and power levels would be pistons, along with cam, exhaust, intake, carb, timing. adress all those issues and youll have a stout 390
 

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On 2006-11-07 20:05, westcoastgalaxie wrote:
they added four bosses on the block itself for motor mounts in 65, 64 and earlier blocks only used two bosses. so you can use the 64 mounts on the later style block. i did this on my gal no prob. also another diff in motor and power levels would be pistons, along with cam, exhaust, intake, carb, timing. adress all those issues and youll have a stout 390
Good. I already planned to swap out my heads that have been rebuilt for my 352, not sure what the differences will be except that mine wouldn't have had hardened seats unless the people who rebuilt them added that. I also will swap out my 4bbl intake and carb. And then I'd just need to buy new pistons and maybe replace the cam. Unless my 352 pistons would work, and if I remember right I looked in my hollander book and found that they would.

thanks for all the good info.
 

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So the only differnces on the outside are Bolt Bosses? The insides aren't a factor in an installation only the outsides.... {Unless he's swapping parts....}

Your 352 Pistons WILL NOT WORK... The 352 has a bore diameter of 4 inches and the 390 has a bore of 4.05 inches.... Your 352 piston will slap around in the hole like a toyota Celica being sucked through a 428 intake manifold...

Deb,

Here's a little Ford Truck engine refereence chart for ya.

1967-1972 - 240 in³ (3.9 L) straight-6
1967-1972 - 300 in³ (4.9 L) straight-6
1967 - 352 in³ (5.8 L) FE V8
1968-1972 - 360 in³ (5.9 L) FE V8
1968-1972 - 390 in³ (6.4 L) FE V8
1969-1972 - 302 in³ (4.9 L) Windsor V8, 220 hp (164 kW)
1973-1977 - 240 in³ (3.9 L) straight-6
1973-1977 - 300 in³ (4.9 L) straight-6
1973-1977 - 351 in³ (5.8 L) FE V8
1973-1976 - 360 in³ (5.9 L) FE V8
1973-1977 - 390 in³ (6.4 L) FE V8
1973-1977 - 302 in³ (4.9 L) Windsor V8
1973-1979 - 460 in³ (7.5 L) 385 V8
1977-1979 - 351 in³ (5.8 L) Cleveland V8, 163 hp (122 kW)
1977-1979 - 400 in³ (6.6 L) Cleveland V8, 169 hp (126 kW)
1978-1979 - 300 in³ (4.9 L) straight-6, 114 hp (85 kW)

Those are the dates for specific engine usages in ford trucks.


The Heads from the 352 to the 390 will swap with NO problem


FE
 
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